Community Tournament (Congratulations Alvendor on 1st Place!)

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(07-28-2012 03:25 AM)Alvendor Wrote:  (not so) crazy idea: play 3 games simultaneously?

I have seen this done in a Hero Academy tournament. It works fine, though it still has the drawback that one person will get FTA twice, and who that is is decided from the outset. The other problem is that 3 games is a pretty significant chunk of games to devote to this tournament. But, this would mean that we could go through a whole match in the time it takes to complete a single game, which is good. This would cut the length of this tournament in half. So yes, this should be on the table.

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(07-28-2012 03:31 AM)CombatEX Wrote:  I think the first two games should be played on the same map like Harti suggested with each player getting to have FTA for one of the games. However, I'm not so sure about everyone playing on the same map in the whole tournament. If the two players in any specific match-up agree on a map from the start that's great, however if there is a disagreement we could do the following: Each player can alternate vetoing maps until 1 map is left. The higher seeded player can have the first veto (that player will get 3 vetoes while the other player will get 2). This way both players will be guaranteed a map they're okay with.

As for the whole tie-breaker issue, it is unfortunate that none of the suggestions Harti listed are necessarily indications of skill. However Harti already explained how often times tiebreakers in sports are like this.

I think we should use Harti's tiebreakers to decide who gets to choose between FTA or map preference in a third tiebreaker game. This way no one feels cheated because they tied 1-1 but their base had 2 hp in their win instead of 4 hp. At the same time we don't just throw a straight advantage to the higher seeded player in a match-up (they already have higher seeding as it is...). I also like the idea of the player who doesn't have FTA getting to choose the map in this third game so that at least if you're at a slight disadvantage from the start you can pick the map on which this bothers you the least.

My overarching concern about this discussion is that I don't want this system to be overly complicated. I'd like it to be simple. I think it'd be nice to let both people in a matchup start a game with their opponent, choose their own map, and play a third game if necessary with FTA going to one person or the other based on seed. I don't really think any further analysis is necessary; we have already established that we have to make an arbitrary decision at some point. This can be that arbitrary decision.

As for 1 map for the whole tournament...eh, sounds boring to me. Right? And if the third game has one player choosing the map, the other going first, there should be no imbalance with regard to map selection.

Also CombatEX, would you like to enter the tournament?

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(07-27-2012 06:34 PM)Eijolend Wrote:  I guess you could play all 3 games at once, but that doesn't allow you to use what you found out about your opponent's playstyle in the earlier games to your advantage - so I'm not sure what's better.

Do you plan on having a time limit other than the 4 days/move?

Eijolend - would you like to sign up?

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