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Turtling Discussion
08-03-2012, 09:52 AM
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RE: Turtling Discussion
(07-27-2012 05:24 PM)stevewastaken Wrote:  outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIQCxIIR2FtZVJvb20YoMhhDA

(Keep in mind: from what my opponent says in his chat, he's not a frequent turtler. Which I believe, as there are several times where he could have utilized his Bombshells for even more damage than they already do.)

-I see his turtle supported by a Bombshell extremely early, and I try to play catch up. I get my own turtle up to counter any big push, and because it is too dangerous to push any closer to the Bombshell.

-My catch-up takes a bit of time, and I'm almost certain he has 2 Bombshells by this point. (He doesn't yet, but he will soon).

-I know that the thicker the turtle gets, the more advantage the Bombshell gains, so as soon as I get 2 Scramblers into position (my only hope to break through and hit the Bombshell), I attack.

TURN 21: Look close and you'll see we not only have the same number of units, but almost the exact same types of units as well. (I have one more medic, he has one more scout). This is a near perfect example.

-Even in hindsight I can't imagine putting together a stronger attack. I guess if I left the scout alone and didn't heal the Heavy, I could have attacked with 1 more soldier, but not for a kill.
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So in the exchange, even though I strike first, I lose 2 Special units (14 wits). My opponent only loses 2 Soldiers and a Special (11 wits). Yes, I do gain those 2 soldiers, but at 1hp they should have been cake to remove. Yes, that does still take 2 wits, but it's also easier to replace 2 soldiers over time than it is to save up for a new Special unit.

More important than the wit exchange, is that there's no other attack I can conceive of that crosses a 3(4) hex danger zone, breaks through a 4hp wall, to then do another 4hp. Because no unit hits harder than 3. So how are you supposed to break it? Trading 2 Special units for 1 Special and 2 Soldiers seems to be the best I can hope for.


I hardly ever play feedback so perhaps some other users may share better strategies, but two scramblers certainly wasn't necessary. When you had one scrambler+your front most soldier guarding it, you could have scrambled one soldier, attack shell, move scrambled soldier back towards your base, then use your own 4 hp soldier to fill the gap and finish the shell. At least this way it's 1 for 1 in terms of special units, right?
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Turtling Discussion - xSkeletalx - 07-24-2012, 11:00 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - swimj - 07-24-2012, 11:41 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Bluegodzill - 07-24-2012, 11:58 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Harti - 07-25-2012, 01:04 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Syvan - 07-25-2012, 12:02 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Bluegodzill - 07-25-2012, 01:26 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Kamikaze28 - 07-25-2012, 01:53 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Bluegodzill - 07-25-2012, 02:14 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Syvan - 07-25-2012, 02:36 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Harti - 07-25-2012, 02:53 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - ArtNJ - 07-25-2012, 03:41 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - aaronINdayton - 07-25-2012, 06:09 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Harti - 07-25-2012, 07:55 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - swimj - 07-25-2012, 09:07 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Harti - 07-25-2012, 10:15 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - crump7 - 07-25-2012, 08:25 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Syvan - 07-25-2012, 09:06 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Harti - 07-25-2012, 09:23 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Cookie - 07-25-2012, 10:36 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - crump7 - 07-26-2012, 02:15 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Syvan - 07-26-2012, 03:06 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - crump7 - 07-26-2012, 04:56 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - stevewastaken - 07-27-2012, 08:31 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - ArtNJ - 07-27-2012, 10:08 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - CombatEX - 07-27-2012, 11:00 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - stevewastaken - 07-27-2012, 11:52 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - xSkeletalx - 07-27-2012, 01:27 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - stevewastaken - 07-27-2012, 05:24 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - CombatEX - 07-27-2012, 05:55 PM
RE: Turtling Discussion - swimj - 08-03-2012 09:52 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - stevewastaken - 08-01-2012, 09:15 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Syvan - 08-01-2012, 09:39 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - worldfamous - 08-01-2012, 09:39 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - stevewastaken - 08-01-2012, 10:24 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - nivra0 - 08-03-2012, 04:14 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - NathanDetr0it - 08-03-2012, 04:40 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - nivra0 - 08-03-2012, 09:34 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - Syvan - 08-01-2012, 10:47 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - stevewastaken - 08-01-2012, 11:38 AM
RE: Turtling Discussion - CombatEX - 08-01-2012, 12:34 PM
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