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Alvendor · (This post was last modified: 05-22-2013 08:57 PM by Alvendor.)

(05-22-2013 01:00 AM)GreatGonzales Wrote: Here's a crazy idea. What if everyone agrees to start playing feedback in league. Just for shiggles.

Month of the scrambler or something!

(05-22-2013 06:33 AM)Szei Wrote:
(05-20-2013 05:47 AM)Alvendor Wrote: So this costs us 16 wits but we gain a 1 hp soldier worth 2 wits so total cost 14.
Opponent loose: 4hp soldier and boosted bombshell - 15
It also costs opponent one wit to kill our 4 hp soldier so a total of 16 wits.
So in a perfect exchange we can gain 2 wits by trading a scrambler for a bombshell.

I agree with your general premise that Feedback vs Scallywags revolves around gambling and is something that I dislike about the matchup. However, I would like to point out that you do gain a little more than 2 wits as the cost of moving a soldier up to the position of the scrambled soldier likely makes the scrambled soldier worth more on the order of 4 or 5 wits while the lost scrambled soldier probably cost your opponent 4 or 5 wits. If you factor in movement costs it's actually usually quite a good exchange for the Feedback player on a successful scramble, BUT in order to get your scrambler in position to pull this off, you usually have to put your scrambler in a place where the Scallywag player could kill it on the turn prior to your attack.

Yeah the opponent's lost soldier I assume worth 5 wits and the bombshell 10 wits. Usually you move the scrambled soldier backwards as otherwise opponent kills it it using 0-2wits (potentially with a newly created runner). If you assume this exchange takes place further from your spawn you also need to spend an extra wit on your scrambler and your 4hp soldier so it kind of balances out.

(05-22-2013 06:33 AM)Szei Wrote: So as you said, SvF is all about high stakes gambling. If the Scallywag player suspects you have a scrambler in range to attack them next turn and chooses to attack first, they can kill the scrambler if they are correct. This is a huge payout for them. However, if you are bluffing or they simply misread you and you actually have your scrambler slightly out of range as a trap, then when the scallywag player attacks and barely can't reach your scrambler, you get the huge payout instead (a relatively safe scramble and the subsequent momentum).

This is a really good point. For Feedback this bluffing and guessing game occurs much more than for other races. The scrambler vs bombshell is kind of a special situation as it happens so often. There are other situations that only applies to high level games. Sometimes you can put your scrambler in a really vulnerable spot if the opponent knew it was there. The only thing you rely on is that the opponent can't make a good move that at the same time provides that vision. It can be really strong against good opponents but suicide in lower level games!