Poll: Which maps (if any) should be retired?
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Sharkfood Island 11.91% 68 11.91%
Long Nine 5.08% 29 5.08%
Glitch 3.85% 22 3.85%
Foundry 12.96% 74 12.96%
Sweetie Plains 6.13% 35 6.13%
Peekaboo 14.71% 84 14.71%
Reaper 6.30% 36 6.30%
Thorn Gulley 5.78% 33 5.78%
Don't remove any maps! 33.27% 190 33.27%
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Which Maps to Retire?
02-06-2013, 09:34 AM
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RE: Which Maps to Retire?
(02-06-2013 08:00 AM)Necrocat219 Wrote:  I forgot about the mobi rush, however in that case thats a 'bad' metagame. In a turn based game, unlike a RTS game you have a 50:50 chance of correctly countering your opponent, if you fail to counter one, they are guaranteed a win, fail the other you wasted one wit with your runner and are slightly behind, making it the map with the largest luck element involved. I still think it should be modified Tongue

I really feel that this game would suffer and does not need a metagame like all those real time strategy games, much like other board games such as chess and hero academy don't have metagames but instead different openings with similar themes (although having to learn the openings off by heart is a pain). In LoL, DotA and HoN they are designed to have RPS formats, they all have team selection in order to have mind games in order to see who can choose the better set up and to suit each players strengths and the laning and jungle setup allows for a lot of variables to create a (successful?) metagame (League of Legends is the only one I've played and half of champions are unplayable in top level play).

I don't much like the idea of a metagame either, but in a game with limited information like Outwitters, it is unavoidable. Chess and Hero Academy provide complete vision so it is different. That being said, I do agree with you that we don't "need" one and also that I don't particularly like it. But it's not as though we are deciding on whether or not Outwitters should have one, rather, it's something that is inherent due to FoW. The longer we play on the same maps and the more they are "figured out", the more we will approach RTS-like metagaming. I guess that's an argument against keeping maps for a long time and a reason to switch them out more frequently.

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Which Maps to Retire? - oneadamleft - 02-05-2013, 04:04 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - TheQwertiest - 02-05-2013, 04:15 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Gf!sh - 02-05-2013, 04:28 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Harti - 02-05-2013, 04:32 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 04:18 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - joelduque - 02-05-2013, 04:24 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - baopu - 02-07-2013, 01:38 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - EkoFox - 02-07-2013, 02:15 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - oneadamleft - 02-05-2013, 04:24 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 04:30 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - worldfamous - 02-05-2013, 04:39 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 04:49 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Harti - 02-05-2013, 04:53 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 05:09 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - aaronINdayton - 02-05-2013, 04:51 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Alvendor - 02-05-2013, 09:40 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - worldfamous - 02-05-2013, 06:18 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - TheQwertiest - 02-05-2013, 04:53 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Ja Karta - 02-05-2013, 05:23 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 05:49 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-05-2013, 05:43 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - connor34911 - 02-05-2013, 05:51 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-05-2013, 06:15 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 05:53 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - the duck - 02-05-2013, 05:44 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - EkoFox - 02-05-2013, 06:03 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - TheQwertiest - 02-05-2013, 07:19 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - CombatEX - 02-05-2013, 07:25 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 07:33 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - CombatEX - 02-05-2013, 07:41 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 08:01 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - CombatEX - 02-05-2013, 10:52 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - burnodrod - 02-05-2013, 07:37 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Coolio - 02-05-2013, 08:18 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - wonderpug - 02-05-2013, 08:23 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - laYahooz - 02-05-2013, 08:33 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - RandyDogz - 02-05-2013, 09:15 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - ImperialSun - 02-05-2013, 10:22 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - RandyDogz - 02-05-2013, 10:58 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - TheGreatErenan - 02-05-2013, 09:46 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Alvendor - 02-05-2013, 11:03 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - CombatEX - 02-05-2013, 11:11 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - jbadams01 - 02-05-2013, 11:14 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-05-2013, 11:46 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - garcia1000 - 02-05-2013, 01:06 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - poweewee - 02-05-2013, 01:19 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - CombatEX - 02-05-2013, 02:22 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - vegaprom - 02-05-2013, 01:32 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - poweewee - 02-05-2013, 02:25 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Ryzuma - 02-05-2013, 01:34 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-05-2013, 01:38 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - daHsu - 02-05-2013, 02:25 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - blckace - 02-05-2013, 06:34 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-05-2013, 06:58 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - worldfamous - 02-06-2013, 02:54 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - CombatEX - 02-06-2013, 03:38 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - $till - 02-05-2013, 10:43 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Pareesauce - 02-05-2013, 11:06 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Gf!sh - 02-05-2013, 11:44 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Pareesauce - 02-06-2013, 02:23 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - XixonDale - 02-06-2013, 02:31 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - vegaprom - 02-06-2013, 02:40 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-06-2013, 03:17 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Wildt4lon - 02-06-2013, 03:23 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - kaijisama - 02-06-2013, 03:57 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - aaronINdayton - 02-06-2013, 04:01 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Ja Karta - 02-07-2013, 02:17 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - aaronINdayton - 02-07-2013, 03:02 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - WesC 3 - 02-08-2013, 11:30 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Breaumont - 02-06-2013, 07:53 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-06-2013, 08:00 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - CombatEX - 02-06-2013 09:34 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Harti - 02-06-2013, 08:22 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-06-2013, 10:45 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - ImperialSun - 02-07-2013, 01:10 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - worldfamous - 02-06-2013, 01:26 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - The RawkHawk - 02-06-2013, 02:44 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-06-2013, 03:32 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Jacrdr - 02-06-2013, 11:19 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - HollowKisame - 02-06-2013, 11:35 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - ImperialSun - 02-07-2013, 12:57 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - nawtyd0g - 02-07-2013, 01:09 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - burnodrod - 02-07-2013, 01:31 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - vegaprom - 02-07-2013, 02:44 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - GreatGonzales - 02-07-2013, 07:05 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - The RawkHawk - 02-07-2013, 08:42 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - connor34911 - 02-07-2013, 09:00 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - maconbot - 02-07-2013, 02:08 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - baopu - 02-07-2013, 02:41 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-07-2013, 03:42 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - aaronINdayton - 02-07-2013, 07:58 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Wildt4lon - 02-07-2013, 06:04 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-07-2013, 10:00 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - harvarnold - 02-07-2013, 10:29 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Derr furlong - 02-07-2013, 10:22 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - .Memories. - 02-07-2013, 10:25 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Sichas - 02-07-2013, 03:13 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - bmike - 02-08-2013, 06:15 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - .Memories. - 02-08-2013, 06:36 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - The RawkHawk - 02-08-2013, 07:15 AM
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RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-08-2013, 11:23 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - worldfamous - 02-09-2013, 01:16 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - harvarnold - 02-09-2013, 02:36 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - worldfamous - 02-09-2013, 07:31 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - harvarnold - 02-09-2013, 08:16 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-09-2013, 10:11 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - worldfamous - 02-09-2013, 11:31 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Rexus424 - 02-09-2013, 04:22 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - TheGreatErenan - 02-09-2013, 06:21 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Eijolend - 02-09-2013, 10:09 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - alexjiang1 - 02-09-2013, 10:14 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-09-2013, 11:09 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - EkoFox - 02-09-2013, 11:32 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - worldfamous - 02-09-2013, 11:41 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - alexjiang1 - 02-09-2013, 11:15 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-09-2013, 12:00 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - harvarnold - 02-09-2013, 09:37 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-09-2013, 11:21 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Jacrdr - 02-11-2013, 12:31 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - i8nicknames - 02-11-2013, 05:47 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - daHsu - 02-11-2013, 02:29 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - zer0CD - 02-11-2013, 06:33 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-12-2013, 11:58 AM
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RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Willythewile - 02-19-2013, 11:09 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Necrocat219 - 02-14-2013, 12:53 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - garcia1000 - 02-19-2013, 07:19 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Mag!cGuy - 02-19-2013, 07:38 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - CombatEX - 02-20-2013, 05:04 AM
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RE: Which Maps to Retire? - game_taker - 02-20-2013, 04:33 AM
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RE: Which Maps to Retire? - fredylee - 02-20-2013, 05:18 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Mag!cGuy - 02-20-2013, 05:24 AM
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RE: Which Maps to Retire? - The RawkHawk - 02-20-2013, 05:37 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Gf!sh - 02-20-2013, 06:13 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - Mag!cGuy - 02-20-2013, 06:17 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - TheGreatErenan - 02-20-2013, 06:33 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - ElPared - 02-22-2013, 08:15 AM
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RE: Which Maps to Retire? - ElPared - 02-22-2013, 08:51 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - harvarnold - 02-22-2013, 11:26 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - ElPared - 02-22-2013, 11:40 AM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - harvarnold - 02-22-2013, 11:45 AM
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RE: Which Maps to Retire? - jaxxinjr - 03-01-2013, 04:47 PM
RE: Which Maps to Retire? - bobolynx - 03-02-2013, 03:50 PM
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