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More Bombshell Trouble
02-03-2013, 01:46 PM
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RE: More Bombshell Trouble
(02-03-2013 12:04 PM)CombatEX Wrote:  I just saw this brief exchange.

(02-02-2013 10:16 AM)amoffett Wrote:  
(02-02-2013 09:25 AM)TheQwertiest Wrote:  -i dont know how to turtle

You say that as if its hard to turtle. I'd say more like you aren't willing to stoop to turtling. I think turtling is an easy way to get to Masters, but just turtling won't move you much further up than that.

That's not true. Adorable turtles are incredibly strong especially at the highest level.

More importantly, I dislike all this talk of "stooping" to turtling and attempting to devalue the accomplishments of others. Outwitters is an amazing game with many valid potential strategies. If you look at the top replays, players winning with bombshells is no longer common. Utilizing bombshells both offensively and defensively at a high level is no longer trivial. As I have said previously, in AvS, a turtling game is usually preferable for the Adorables player. In the other matchups though, I do agree that once a Scallywag player settles in, it can be very hard to break. In fact, you could even say that once this happens, "it's very easy and takes no skill". However, in doing so you're conveniently forgetting how the turtle was allowed to take root. As a Feedback player, I hate it when Scallywags get a solid defensive position. However, I don't whine about how it took them no skill and try to discredit them. Rather, it was my fault for letting it happen. In SvF, it is the Feedback's job to take the initiative and keep the Scallywags player from getting into a comfortable turtle. This is in much the same way a Scallywag has to prevent an Adorables player from turtling so they don't get picked apart by mobi hit and run later.

Instead of attempting to belittle the victories of others, try to see both sides of the picture. I found what helps a lot is trying other teams, in particular, those you find overpowered. Perhaps in doing so you will discover the problems the so-called 'OP' team faces and have a greater appreciation for them. If you don't encounter any hardships, then looks like you'll be in Super-Titan with your new team in no time!

I think you've misunderstood, when I said turtling I meant just spamming bombshells and sitting back like we're discussing in this thread, whereas you've taken it to mean just playing defensively in general. As discussed, it only gets you so far, and I don't think it makes for a fun game for either side.

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More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 01-31-2013, 02:21 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - GoHeat 3 - 01-31-2013, 02:27 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - EkoFox - 01-31-2013, 02:32 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - alexjiang1 - 01-31-2013, 02:37 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - EkoFox - 01-31-2013, 02:39 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - alexjiang1 - 01-31-2013, 02:42 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - 1ucky - 01-31-2013, 02:39 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - EkoFox - 01-31-2013, 02:59 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - .Memories. - 01-31-2013, 02:47 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 01-31-2013, 02:55 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Phyresis - 01-31-2013, 03:09 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 01-31-2013, 03:28 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - jaxxinjr - 01-31-2013, 03:20 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - ElPared - 01-31-2013, 03:42 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - .Memories. - 01-31-2013, 03:42 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - garcia1000 - 01-31-2013, 03:52 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - connor34911 - 01-31-2013, 03:53 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - KingOfThorns - 01-31-2013, 05:07 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - John3:16 - 02-01-2013, 12:16 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Gf!sh - 02-01-2013, 12:28 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 02-01-2013, 02:07 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - 2dhh - 02-01-2013, 12:58 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - vegaprom - 02-01-2013, 01:57 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - aaronINdayton - 02-01-2013, 03:04 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - John3:16 - 02-01-2013, 03:46 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 02-01-2013, 10:20 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - 2dhh - 02-01-2013, 11:19 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 02-01-2013, 12:26 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Ja Karta - 02-01-2013, 10:58 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - amoffett11 - 02-02-2013, 05:18 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 02-02-2013, 09:00 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - GoHeat 3 - 02-02-2013, 09:09 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - TheQwertiest - 02-02-2013, 09:25 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - amoffett11 - 02-02-2013, 10:16 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - FeederTerror - 02-03-2013, 02:47 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 02-03-2013, 03:25 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - CombatEX - 02-03-2013, 03:48 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 02-03-2013, 04:08 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - CombatEX - 02-03-2013, 04:28 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 02-03-2013, 04:56 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - aaronINdayton - 02-05-2013, 12:36 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - garcia1000 - 02-03-2013, 10:49 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - connor34911 - 02-03-2013, 11:29 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - CombatEX - 02-03-2013, 12:04 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Ryzuma - 02-03-2013, 12:18 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - amoffett11 - 02-03-2013 01:46 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - garcia1000 - 02-03-2013, 05:43 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - connor34911 - 02-04-2013, 02:54 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 02-04-2013, 05:44 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - 1ucky - 02-04-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - connor34911 - 02-04-2013, 07:46 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - garcia1000 - 02-04-2013, 12:04 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - laYahooz - 02-04-2013, 12:50 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - garcia1000 - 02-05-2013, 01:33 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Ja Karta - 02-05-2013, 02:06 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 02-05-2013, 05:29 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 02-09-2013, 03:07 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Alvendor - 02-09-2013, 06:08 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 02-09-2013, 07:06 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - aaronINdayton - 02-09-2013, 06:19 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - GoHeat 3 - 02-09-2013, 06:35 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - garcia1000 - 02-09-2013, 09:54 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - GoHeat 3 - 02-09-2013, 10:03 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Ryzuma - 02-09-2013, 10:10 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - GoHeat 3 - 02-09-2013, 10:16 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - EkoFox - 02-09-2013, 10:26 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Ryzuma - 02-09-2013, 10:48 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - ImperialSun - 02-10-2013, 08:19 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - GoHeat 3 - 02-10-2013, 08:20 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - harvarnold - 02-13-2013, 11:48 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - vegaprom - 05-16-2013, 04:44 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - TheQwertiest - 05-16-2013, 05:48 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - vegaprom - 05-18-2013, 12:08 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - ElPared - 05-21-2013, 05:17 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - [PETA] Doodat - 05-21-2013, 05:47 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - ElPared - 05-22-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Szei - 05-22-2013, 05:58 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - bobolynx - 05-28-2013, 09:13 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - ElPared - 05-30-2013, 05:11 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - ElPared - 06-01-2013, 03:38 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 06-01-2013, 05:05 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - ElPared - 06-01-2013, 05:41 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 06-01-2013, 05:54 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Szei - 06-05-2013, 11:45 AM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Mag!cGuy - 06-05-2013, 09:37 PM
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - ElPared - 06-06-2013, 10:49 AM

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