Is there any disadvantage for the starting player?

[calmon]

(07-12-2012 05:08 AM)mkaen Wrote:  

(07-12-2012 05:01 AM)calmon Wrote:  

(07-12-2012 04:55 AM)mkaen Wrote:  

(07-12-2012 04:51 AM)calmon Wrote:  It seems very simple just to limit the wits.

Very simple but not very thoughtful.

In chess, the starting player isn't penalized or restricted relative to the second player. I see no reason he should be in Outwitters.

If you want the fairest possible determination of skill between two players, they should play a series, alternating who moves first -- just like in chess.

Otherwise, because you play some ladder games as "white" and some as "black", the net result is any potential advantage gets averaged out in your MMR / league status. This is analogous to chess's ELO ratings. It would be ludicrous to suggest that ELO ratings are bunk because white has a tiny advantage. Even more silly would be to call for white to start with one less pawn than black, to "make up" for this slight advantage.

It really amazes me how many forum posters want/expect OML to change fundamental game design parameters within the first week after release, based on their own personal whim.

You could say the same to games like Magic the Gathering.

When in come out and for several years they had this advatage for the starting player. Years later until now they changed it in a way the starting player don't draw a card in hist first turn and it was the most liked change since start.

Why do you think it needs even a discussion?

Chess? chess uses 1 Turn and not 5 so this is a limit! + even here you have a (small) advatage playing white.

Having 5 Wits doing stuff, geting bonus fields first turn makes it even worse for second player.

In one game it's one action, in the other it's five actions. Do you see that 1 == 1 and 5 == 5?

The first player "getting bonus first" isn't a problem. The second player can just get it second. VOILA! Magically, each player now has 6 wits on his second turn.

My comments still stand. I see no reason to adjust this.

Man do I really need to explain the difference? Come on... just think logic otherwise you never play highest League

Fun beside I don't want to explain it in detail for you. You could read the first post in the link I got as first answer. He explains it a bit for you.