Bramble overnerfed

[PowerCrazy]

(03-28-2013 06:53 AM)Gf!sh Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 06:43 AM)PowerCrazy Wrote:  There is no need for any of these convoluted ideas. All you need is to remove the wit on kill and the bramble is perfect. Easy enough to counter, but not free to counter.

Elaborate plz.

Right now a thorn has 2hp. If you kill it with a soldier you just killed it for free. The original bramble had 2hp thorns and it was a little a weak, but those 2hp thorns did not return a wit on kill. The "buff" to the bramble at v2 wasn't a buff at all. It actually made the thorns EVEN WEAKER. 3hp thorns with a wit return on kill terrible, and many players knew it, so then Alex made the thorns able to attack and detract, which was ok, but with a 3hp thorn that can attack it was OP because the only counter to it was heavies which are extremely wit inefficient.

So now for some reason the bramble has been changed back to 2hp, BUT WITH WIT RETURN, allowing soldiers to counter an unlimited number of vines, effortlessly. If the vines can be countered so readily I question why they exist at all. What is their Niche, what can they do that can be done better with a scout?

And of course, the original reason Vines were weak was vs Scallywags, well guess what? They are still weak vs scallywags, but now they are weak vs EVERYONE, they are actually the weakest unit in the game.