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Bramble overnerfed
03-27-2013, 03:35 AM (This post was last modified: 03-27-2013 03:38 AM by GreatGonzales.)
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RE: Bramble overnerfed
Gavin, which variation of the bramble is more useful in your opinion:

1. 2 hp thorns, no wit for kill, cannot attack
2. 2 hp thorns, wit for kill, can attack

?

This is a close call IMO and will need playtesting.

My thing is, I don't WANT a powerful bramble. I saw what happened to the game when the bramble was a viable strategy, and the game was no longer fun to play. I also do not share your confidence that a bramble having thorns which have the following attributes would be balanced:

1. 2 hp
2. No wit for kill
3. Can attack

I think this may be overpowered once again, since veggies can be very wit efficient with thorns, if they are smart about it, and especially on 1-spawn maps can gain a unit count advantage - especially the new maps having 1 spawn and 2 wit spaces.

All that to say, I am not convinced that a balanced bramble is possible unless a fundamental mechanic changes (i.e. something like what Alvendor suggested, for example). And I would rather OML underpower the bramble than risk overpowering the bramble, given how unfun the game becomes.

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Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-21-2013, 01:58 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GreatGonzales - 03-21-2013, 02:00 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGreatAnt - 03-21-2013, 02:02 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Mag!cGuy - 03-21-2013, 02:04 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGreatAnt - 03-21-2013, 03:52 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - {~BiA85~} - 03-21-2013, 02:42 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - laYahooz - 03-22-2013, 02:09 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-23-2013, 01:37 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - game_taker - 03-23-2013, 05:04 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - ElPared - 03-23-2013, 05:19 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-27-2013, 03:02 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Mag!cGuy - 03-27-2013, 03:56 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - amoffett11 - 03-27-2013, 08:18 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - blckace - 03-27-2013, 03:31 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GreatGonzales - 03-27-2013 03:35 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - game_taker - 03-27-2013, 03:49 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GreatGonzales - 03-27-2013, 04:02 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGoldenGriffin - 03-27-2013, 03:37 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Alvendor - 03-27-2013, 07:42 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-27-2013, 03:50 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - blckace - 03-27-2013, 04:05 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-27-2013, 04:28 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GreatGonzales - 03-27-2013, 04:28 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGoldenGriffin - 03-27-2013, 04:37 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - NDRDOG - 03-27-2013, 10:57 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - ElPared - 03-28-2013, 06:54 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGoldenGriffin - 04-05-2013, 12:33 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - ElPared - 04-05-2013, 02:08 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGoldenGriffin - 03-27-2013, 08:36 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - blckace - 03-27-2013, 09:26 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - ElPared - 03-27-2013, 12:52 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGreatErenan - 03-28-2013, 01:45 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - John3:16 - 03-28-2013, 03:05 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - PowerCrazy - 03-28-2013, 06:43 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gf!sh - 03-28-2013, 06:53 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - PowerCrazy - 03-28-2013, 07:05 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GreatGonzales - 03-28-2013, 06:59 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GreatGonzales - 03-28-2013, 07:27 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - blckace - 03-28-2013, 07:34 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GoHeat 3 - 03-28-2013, 07:38 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-28-2013, 11:17 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Ryzuma - 03-28-2013, 07:37 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - blckace - 03-28-2013, 11:43 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-28-2013, 01:26 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - bobolynx - 03-28-2013, 02:15 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - ElPared - 03-28-2013, 05:46 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - PowerCrazy - 03-29-2013, 12:21 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GreatGonzales - 03-29-2013, 12:42 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - PowerCrazy - 03-29-2013, 03:08 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-29-2013, 12:42 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGreatErenan - 03-29-2013, 03:22 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - GreatGonzales - 03-29-2013, 03:26 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - ElPared - 03-29-2013, 08:05 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - bobolynx - 03-29-2013, 07:40 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGreatAnt - 03-29-2013, 12:36 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Gavin Wins - 03-29-2013, 10:24 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Norahsul - 03-29-2013, 10:51 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - laYahooz - 03-30-2013, 04:45 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Null - 04-03-2013, 12:17 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - PowerCrazy - 04-03-2013, 04:45 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGreatAnt - 03-29-2013, 10:50 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Ja Karta - 03-29-2013, 11:00 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - PowerCrazy - 03-30-2013, 12:25 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGreatAnt - 03-30-2013, 12:32 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGoldenGriffin - 03-29-2013, 12:55 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - TheGreatAnt - 03-29-2013, 03:13 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - bobolynx - 03-29-2013, 04:54 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - bobolynx - 03-30-2013, 03:17 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - 1ucky - 04-03-2013, 10:31 AM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - ElPared - 04-03-2013, 05:04 PM
RE: Bramble overnerfed - Necrocat219 - 04-05-2013, 12:22 PM

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