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RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (8 slots left) - Strategic thinker - 09-01-2012 01:00 PM
strategicthinker
Hong Kong
Master, 96 points, 10 wins
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (8 slots left) - awpertunity - 09-01-2012 01:02 PM
There are two main reasons I am using only the base health as an indicator of how "close" a match is:
1) It is easily visible on the end game screen
2) It is not manipulatable. Some other tiebreaker suggestions in the past have been things like number of units left on the field, or number of wits left, or number of wits worth of units left on the field. The problem with these are, once a player knows he has won (and the opponent may not even know it yet), it is very easy to draw out the game and increase any of these numbers. You can't do this with your base health!
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (7 slots left) - Hewitt - 09-01-2012 01:15 PM
Hewitt_1000
Portugal
Top 100: 80
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (8 slots left) - CombatEX - 09-01-2012 05:23 PM
(09-01-2012 09:17 AM)RandyDogz Wrote: And for full disclosure I reported my total points, not 1x1 only, cause that made a huge diff in p/w too.
Hm, but perhaps you should state your 1v1 points only? I believe that was awpertunity's intention (correct me if I'm wrong of course).
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (8 slots left) - RandyDogz - 09-01-2012 07:06 PM
(09-01-2012 05:23 PM)CombatEX Wrote:(09-01-2012 09:17 AM)RandyDogz Wrote: And for full disclosure I reported my total points, not 1x1 only, cause that made a huge diff in p/w too.
Hm, but perhaps you should state your 1v1 points only? I believe that was awpertunity's intention (correct me if I'm wrong of course).
My 1x1 would have been ~450 I think (finished some game since org post) - I wasn't clear on what one to put. My though was safer to overstate rather than under so it wasn't thought I was sandbagging it....
Just rank me last for being a dumbass if that's easier lol
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (8 slots left) - Ravernoth - 09-01-2012 07:21 PM
(09-01-2012 12:59 PM)awpertunity Wrote: Maps have been pre-selected and will be displayed on the tournament bracket once I post the final Groups.
Great - I was going to suggest that. Just like World Cup stadiums
(09-01-2012 01:02 PM)awpertunity Wrote: There are two main reasons I am using only the base health as an indicator of how "close" a match is:
1) It is easily visible on the end game screen
2) It is not manipulatable. Some other tiebreaker suggestions in the past have been things like number of units left on the field, or number of wits left, or number of wits worth of units left on the field. The problem with these are, once a player knows he has won (and the opponent may not even know it yet), it is very easy to draw out the game and increase any of these numbers. You can't do this with your base health!
Base health isn't a very good indicator as it can be a long dragout fight with the loser having a heavy and soldier 1 turn away from winning.
The number of turns taken may be a better sign of a close match, so it could be something like this (with adjusted values for the size of the map):
< 15 turns - 4 pts
< 30 turns - 3 pts
< 45 turns - 2 pts
Over 45 turns - 1 pt
Between Number of Turns and Base health , one of them can be used as the tie breaker.
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (6 slots left) - Necrocat219 - 09-01-2012 08:03 PM
So... if I win the first game with 5 base health, then I spawn a lot of runners and aim to just do 1 damage to the opponent base, I automatically win the second game as soon as I damage the opponent base? This doesn't seem like a better tiebreak than a third game to me. :/
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (6 slots left) - Eijolend - 09-01-2012 08:15 PM
Necrocat, I don't think it's meant to decide who wins the game, but rather who advances in the group stages if two players have the same W/L record.
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (6 slots left) - Necrocat219 - 09-01-2012 08:15 PM
Consider this as one tiebreaker, because I think it's perfectly reasonable: who captured (or changed to blank) the most wit spaces in the first 16 turns of both games added together. This is something a lot of players aim to do anyway, and it's not possible to farm capturing bases without affecting your chances of winning in your first 8 turns.
Ah righty, ok thanks, sorry about that
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (6 slots left) - sassmastah - 09-01-2012 09:17 PM
Is it too late to join?
1) sassmastah
2) Canada
3) Gifted, Rank #8, 610 points, 116 Wins